com. #11. Screwfix Community Forum. The chipboard will be very securely fixed to the joists (New loft extension). Water seeped down a rising pipe at the wall under the cork-tiled, T & G chipboard floor, the waterproof membrane and the 1" insulation (jablite type) onto the screed. Removable Draught-Sealed Lid. The Ex-Kitchen Fitter New Member. when we normally lay floor tiles on to a timber floor, we first put a sheet of ply down and then tile over that. What's the best way to do this? As it's the underside of the floor, it will never be walked on (unless the cat learns to walk upside down) and I'm not looking to spend a fortune doing it. The floor level would ideally come up a bit too. Structurally it's not necessary, the chipboard is designed to carry itself but it can creak and squeak after a while. - 10%. 6mm. Mark Griffiths, Feb 6, 2023. There is a page that shows ways of fitting the newel post onto a curtail tread, this will be the same principle but. Chipboard floor / soundproofing advice. Then allow extra 15mm at least to mark cut line above centre of joist. as a rule i never tile on chipboard. Screwfix Community Forum. Our CaberDek is fully wa. Lay a bonded SBR screed, use SBR to prime concrete & use it in screed mix. Single thread. NJ Rider, Feb 4, 2023. Includes TX20 bit. Soudal LVT, PVC & Vinyl Flooring Adhesive 5kg (661KV) (1) compare. It is a ground floor, and there is 250mm of fibreglass insulation suspended between the joists. All of our chipboard is P5 grade, which means it has been treated with a moisture-resistant coating and is load-bearing - perfect for cost-effective chipboard floorboards. The chipboard floor undulates excessively, in places out by approx 1/2" over 3' along the joists and forms dips between them, also joist to joist is slightly out. Click & Collect. £22. My plan was to use the 12mm chipboard i can get a load of for free and lay it on top of the parquet to give me a flatter surface for the laminate. The tiles are 200 x 200mm. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard T&G flooring removal around existing pipes. Suitable for Domestic Use. com. Buy Flooring Adhesives at Screwfix. I will need to pull up a number of the other floorboards in order to reroute the waste pipes and water pipes anyway. Dawsy New Member. I recently used 12mm backer for a floor - joists were are less than 300mm centres (nearer 250) and in between was the solid insulation for wet-underfloor heating so well supported. 8. Simple and cost effective, it can be laid underneath various floor types and is ideal for smaller spaces. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by wb1627, Jan 3, 2010. Ok, looks a bit of a mess. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by rcplumber, Nov 13, 2005. makitamark, Sep 17, 2006. It’s 22mm P5 chipboard over 100mm PIR. Castors. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by carly1979, Jun 11, 2008. Nice link Eye! :^O. 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack (49231) Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. The tiler. #2. Most chipboard flooring is moisture resistant anyway so I wouldn't bother, infact the water will do more harm to the oak than the chipboard. £25. Showing 8 of 12 products. Product code: 164516. Is it possible to make a decent join into half a T & G floor. Hello folks, I’m just about to tile the floor to pretty much the entire ground floor of my house, about 47 square metres. Just lay the cut end next to the wall and continue to lay. and due to the longevity required something with a passivated finish would be good. There are tile adhesives that state they are suitable for chipboard, most likely prime the chipboard with tile primer or SBR first, or just overboard it with a decent 9mm plywood then prime and tile over with a 'regular' adhesive. 2x2 would be ok for that area, 4x2 is overkill. 18mm x 2400mm x 600mm Caberfloor P5 Tongue and Grooved Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring TG4. 1. £14. #6. It’s a timber floor (t+g chipboard) so I’m going to put down the 6mm backer boards. Divide that by 600mm and you will have 6. Includes TX20 bit. Floor-Tite Flooring Screws have been developed to meet the needs of fibre and wooden floor boarding. This type of heating system means no wall mounted variants are needed which gives greater flexibility when designing a room. Flange Head with Reinforced Neck. 42 per m 2. 1. I think my 2 current options are: a) Paint the chipboard with black bitumen paint (blackjack) so it doesn't absorb any moisture from the mortar mix (absorbing water could mean the mortar sets weaker / cause chipboard to swell) and then press on with putting down the. Therefore, boarding directly onto joists would mean in many cases having reduced insulation in between the joists (75mm – 100mm) or squashing. 5. I was working in a property last week and the chipboard floors had circular access panels about 300mm in diameter cut into them which were lined with a flush fitting plastic ring type thingy, this allowed the bit of chipboard cut that was cut out to sit flush with the finished floor level and was a really quite a. Flash_uk New Member. Steviejoiner74 New Member. I can't think of a more suitable surface for tiling. As Willy said, if you have to go underneath at anytime you are still going to have to cut the board somewhere as they are all interlocked and won't lift without making a cut. Shapeable to Repair Without Formwork. Make sure that before the vinyl is fitted all screw/ nail holes are filled and all edges are flush and filled. I am doing the remedial work myself under insurance. electric cables ,water pipes etc are never far away. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2Use a string line to check if your floor is sagging in the middle. Easy to install, these electric underfloor heating mats don't affect floor height, so they're are ideal for new. Edge Insulation Roll. [Please Help] Need to lift chipboard flooring to address pipes knocking Discussion in ' Plumbers' Talk ' started by RipGroove , May 30, 2016 . My issue is that I've just realised after reading online that I have tiled directly onto chipboard that was originally down on the floor. 99 Inc Vat. 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If you have the radiator mounted with the long sides of the brackets at right angles to the wall, you might get away with turning the brackets to have the short sides at right angles to the wall. A bit of a nightmare. 5mm. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. New Member. £33. Zinc-Plated & Yellow-Passivated. Fit and screw down, then when you need access, unscrew the boards and lift out. Once you sand over it you end up with a completely gapless floor. The sub floor is chipboard. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. 18mm x 2440mm x 1220mm Marine Plywood BS1088. VAT. Chipboard Flooring. Offers excellent adhesion to glossy surfaces, including glass. 3) 18mm chipboard + 5. JustPhil Active Member. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk >. Hi Gentleman, I m about to lay 22mm P5 chipboard flooring for my loft conversion. Fork lift or adequate manual labour is required to unload. The failure is due to movement. #5. Structurally it's not necessary, the chipboard is designed to carry itself but it can creak and squeak after a while. The flooring is constructed as follows. 1. Many would just lay 6mm for something like tiling, but then they're not trying to retain levels as in your case. £10. I never would, the integrity of the surface of chipboard is poor compared with most other materials. Look for ones with a valve for easier breathing. 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack (49231) (66) compare. 5m², shop the range by colour or the board thickness required for an authentic look at competitive prices. I had a substantial leak in my 1st floor flat. if the subfloor is sound, lay 4mm ply over it with 1". Order online at Screwfix. Want to make sure P5 chipboard is suitable as subflooring for a suspended floor, on the 3rd floor of a tenement flat, resting onto the joists. Suitable for Domestic & Commercial Use. I’m considering 2 options: 1. It stops free flow of air, creates a home for insects and vermin etc. . com. 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(68 products) Door bolts are used to keep an opening secure, used regularly on gates and external entrances but suitable for internal use also. When the boards are walked upon, the Tri-Lock. Underfloor Heating Mats. Michal Kloch, Nov 21, 2017. If you are left with holes in the floor just gripfill them in as the holes will have the joist underneath. 2) do the same as 1) but use biscuit joints instead (probably less strong by quite some margin. We have recently erected an extension and knocked through from the existing house. I should have levelled the floor joists when I had the opportunity. 8/5. #3. Anyone still 'sinking' the screws in chipboard will have problems. Adjust the fit once the mask is on to keep it snugly and comfortably in place. Buy Wood, Chipboard & Plywood Cutting & Blades at Screwfix. Order online at Screwfix. You are on a Saturday night wind-up. Flooring Chipboard. £74. After removing it, the studs (32x50mm) were not secured to the rather uneven block and beam floor, nor levelled (im guessing resulting in the uneven and noisy floor previously). DannyDoLittle, May 15, 2020. john i did something like this the other week. Immediately Walkable. Ask a question. jactac Member. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. what i did was set circular saw to 17mm and cut through floor as close to walls as i could. For chipboard flooring. 9/5. Einhell kwb A4 Extra Fine P120 Sanding Mesh. TS Thread System Offers a Single & Twin Thread in One, Gripping Fast with a Firm Fix. 22mm Chipboard floor over insulation. MDF-Tite MDF Screws are designed to eliminate blistering when installing MDF boards, fibre boards and chipboard flooring. sharp chisel New Member. I am currently putting extra underlay underneath if require additional support. Another option is to drill a 17mm hole down into the floor, hitting a joist if possible and up into the newel then screw a 19mm length of stud down into the floor then screw the newel down onto it. Cutting the door stops with a saw helps, so you can tuck the plank under stop. 5m rolls available. Shim Wedge Strips. actually sell chipboard flooring bonded to there insulation. Go to My Project List Continue Shopping. 24-Groove Countersunk for a Smooth & Flush Finish. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Glue joists and the tongues, and use three screws per joist, chipboard full threaded screws. nigel Guest. Gain access to wires and pipes under solid board floors. priming approx £25 15kg sets in 5 hrs, alternatively. the existing floor alongside the nearest joist, against the side that's away from the wall. 5mm) flooring ply is used in this situation, or if floors are very uneven, maybe go up to 9mm and overboard the current floorboards. 5 times thickness of sub floor i. Sold & shipped by B&Q. 99 Inc Vat. Optimaxx TX Countersunk Flooring Screws 4mm x 50mm 500 Pack (226TY) (2) compare. You can lay it full width all the way down if you want as long as you don't mind the waste off of each board!! I would use as much of the flooring as possible,just make sure the joints are sitting on a joist. Read less. We tried with limited success to replace the hallway floor with traditional t&g planks (110mm). Solution is to go over the entire floor and give all the nails a good hammer down while pushing the boards down with your body weight. 5mm. Hello wood men, just popped over from the plumbers bit to ask you advice, I have got to help a buddie out this week lay a. Measure the length of the room to determine how many rows there will be. jackelliott07, Dec 2, 2019. SKU: 36HB002. if you set the boards back 10mm off the wall, (grooved side to the wall with the writing down) this allows a 15mm skirting to sit on top with no gap. Add to Cart. It's a short piece of usually 1 1/2"or 2" thickness timber cut and fixed to provide stiffening, Fixing points, reinforcement, strength, support etc. 996m² (9686V) (1) compare. Electric Underfloor Heating. 4. 8"x2" 2400x600x18mm . . fixing ply straight to joists needs a screw 2. 8/5. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. Got a very uneven chipboard floor and laying laminate floor on it. on bag you can traffic and grout after 3 hours, but. Screw down as you suggested, and as Sinewave has mentioned. You might get away with simply laying down a layer of, say, 50mm Jablite or even less, and then laying - floating - T&G chipboard sheets over it. This is sitting on an old pine floor supported by joists over a cellar. (18 products) Underfloor heating mats deliver low cost, energy efficient heating. Before you start to lay any boards, check the depth of your insulation. Estwing used to make a good one, very ridged and strong and will take lots of abuse. I will be tiling the floor and am just trying to understand my options. Just put down some new laminate flooring in the kitchen, it's a bit thicker than the previous stuff & now the plinths wont fit & need a bit trimmed off them, but I'm struggling to see how to make a decent job of it without being at it forever. However i do not accept any. Tolley, Aug 15, 2005. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > replacing chipboard floor. Never used these before but saw a video of a guy bedding them on adhesive just like the tiles, then screwing them down. only a few masters left. £13. I have traditional timber floorboards. Click & Collect. 6 size screws. com. General Purpose. The joists are 8" x 2", 450mm apart and span about 3m. I have done this with 22mm T&G chipboard flooring over 50mm celotex - cheaper than buying the celotex bonded stuff. Showing 1—17 items of 17. The floor manufacturer says the floor can be floated providing the. Various options available including those with added security of a key or code lock function. Home Farm, Sep 14, 2006. You can lay it full width all the way down if you want as long as you don't mind the waste off of each board!! I would use as much of the flooring as possible,just make sure the joints are sitting on a joist. Screwfix Community Forum. The tiles themselves should be ok if movement is only slight. Plan was: Put in several air vents. 20 mm. Discussion in 'Tilers' Talk' started by Flash_uk, Jun 11, 2012. Astravan man , Sinewave is correct. Saving energy at home. Chipboard has no real strength going sideways, so the boards will pull away from any fixings within about 10mm of an edge with relative ease. Gluing and screwing will give you a much more rigid floor and reduce flex. 18mm Chipboard on top. The dip isn't as bad as the bounce and creak I get from it. The floor has dropped under the stud wall by about 6mm (in the middle of the. Read more. Take up the chipboard flooring, ensure there are plenty of noggins between the joists and lay 18mm or 25mm T&G WBP plywood. . I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. TurboCoach Hex Flange Self-Drilling Coach Screws M10 x 100mm 50 Pack (89717) (115) compare. Bodgets suggestion seems the easier solution. !! Active Member. Should I place full. If you wish to only remove part of a sheet you could try blade of saw to where it touches a joist and mark each side on floor with pencil. £122. ElecCEng Screwfix Select. You can get P5 water resistant grade chipboard if you were adamant you wanted something else, but I wouldn't worry personally. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. Electric underfloor heating is an energy efficient way to heat any space. FlyByNight, Mar 12, 2020. Dry in 2 Hours. your access problem should be dealt with by using "routabout"= jig for. You must leave at least 50mm, preferably 100mm or more of clearance between the insulation and the board and the eaves and ensure the soffits allow air flow through them. 5 Boards 1. just pumps Screwfix Select. Currently in Stock. My house is only a few years old and all the flooring consists of huge sheets of chipboard, with the walls added on top of it. Build up the liquid over each joint and jump around - allow the PVA to seep and creep in as far as it can. What will I prime the floor with?Got a very uneven chipboard floor and laying laminate floor on it. 8 or no. 69Inc Vat. structural 18 mm ply is fine ,you may have to add some timber noggins to offer further support at edges where butting up to chipboard on. Having opted for a timber suspended floor (easier to hide cables etc) I have laid the joists and am about to start fixing T&G chipboard. Think the best thing now, is to over-board it, lapping joints, with 12mm ply, fixed down into the boards with 30mm screws (inclue some 50mm screws into the joists if you know where they are and you are satisfied no cables or pipes run there. Shop our range insulation rolls and boards. 3. There was a water leak over 5 years ago which has left the chipboard floor bowed by as much as 6mm where the boards join. Product code: 164516. Buy Floor-Tite Flooring Screws at Screwfix. Add a new look to your home with our range of engineered wood flooring at Wickes today. 5mm minimum screw length. Goldscrew PZ Double-Countersunk Self-Tapping Multipurpose Screws 3. Brackets. Order Broadfix Shim Wedge Strips One Size 100mm x 1-8mm x 20mm 50 Pack at Screwfix. The Tri-Lock threadform offers the benefit of a single and a twin thread in one providing a straight and balanced start, while the coarse single thread ensures boards are clamped fast and firmly and will not pull apart under load. Screwfix Community Forum. £9. Steviejoiner74 New Member. Prefabricated roofs brought to site on a lorry. Product Type. Laying a floor? Using Chipboard flooring panels? Take a look at how to use our CaberFix D4 glue in conjunction with CaberDek panels. if you turn the boards upside down (ie with the writing on top ) you will end up with something like a 30mm gap between the wall and the top surface of the board. as mentioned above ,must be caberdeck which has a plastic sheet stuck to it with taped. It appears that there was a substance between them but this just chips away now, the apartment block was built about 12 years ago. Available in a range of options for multi-surface flooring. £44. Thousands of products available. Then at the other side of the room set the string line again at the same height above floor level. Kraus Gillow Stone Grey Tile-Effect Vinyl Flooring 2. I put some battens down around the edges and door openings. PSR New Member. I have been told to use 6mm ply with screwed down 6" centre's then a flexible adhesive - anyone got any advice on this - this house is around 17 years old Thanksnumber 4 New Member. Concrete beam and block base overlaid with 50mm rigid insulation with t&g chipboard top surface. Sanding woodchip is not a great idea. Delivery Next day available. £45. Requires no pilot hole or pre-drilling. pinshape me gusta pegar tiros; danmark sygeforsikringen New Citroën Berlingo Van. For use with high density fibre boards. Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by Gerry Built, Dec 4, 2007 . Suitable for Soft to Medium Density Tiles. You don't need any noggins on the long joints, but where the ends of boards meet in a gap between joists it's best to put a noggin to support the joint. It would be impossible to. Again, my garage floor. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. The spec of chipboard floors is normally poor for tiling on, there is normally movement. It will be rock solid, without any squeaks or creaks. Spiral point, part thread and under-head ribs for self. Wirox-coated. joints must be staggered and land on joists when laying T & G chipboard flooring lay the first row then cut a piece for the next row so it lands on a different joist then lay a full board then use the offcut from the previous board to finish the row, if your joist are so far out you need a bigger piece you can use your ofcuts in subsequent rows and. AnotherTopJob, Oct 7, 2020. Got to be careful not to cut lower than chipboard depth to cut joists or pipes, wires, etc. Kingscurate, Weetabix and. just one at the centre of the board will suffice. just one at the centre of the board will suffice. (You may need to cut away some of the insulation to make room for the wood. Product Thickness. handyman. com. If its on a riser, then easy to access, if not and judging by your photo it doesnt look like it is, then another option is to cut out a section of the ceiling and access the trap from below. TS Thread System Offers a Single & Twin Thread in One, Gripping Fast with a Firm Fix. 2. It would be better if it was glued and then screwed to the chipboard and preferably the joists underneath. theguildmaster New Member. Soudal Parquet Flooring Adhesive 1kg (425KV) compare. Remove all the broken, cut up, hatched and patched chipboard and throw it into a skip. Either get a better circular saw, leave the hatch to the plumber/spark, or drill a series of holes in a line so you can slip a handsaw through and cut at a very low angle so the blade hardly goes through the underside. 5. stonemasons. Pvc Fitter, Jun 2, 2009. Click and Collect is available or enjoy free UK delivery on selected orders over £150 excluding VAT. 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